[5] NFL [Official Thread]

[ThunderEcho]

Più che altro, i filosofi (letteralmente) del football del 3d, potete darmi qualche link a dei mock draft?

Io ne ho visto su NFL.com uno al limite dell'arresto per assunzione di stupefacenti

[The Kurgan]

Quello di bucky brooks immagino uno ne avevo visto anche io a suo tempo, una cosa obbrobriosamente spaventosa

[nemesi84]

chiedo direttamente qui anche se ho aperto un 3d apposito.

che offerda dà sky per quanto riguarda la nfl e il campionato universitario di football?
quante partite e quante con telecronaca italiana?

[ThunderEcho]

Quello di bucky brooks immagino uno ne avevo visto anche io a suo tempo, una cosa obbrobriosamente spaventosa

Haha sìsì è quello di Brooks
Roba fuori dal mondo, giocatori che non servono, giocatori che servono della stazza sbagliata, nessun QB al primo giro (capisco i vari discorsi su giocatori di altri ruoli più forti ma ci sono squadre con QB indecenti, e con il ben di dio di quest'anno altro che Stafford )

@nemesi: su SKY trovi il canale ESPN America, che offre ogni settimana 4 partite di NFL e svariate di NCAA, in diretta e differita, in più anche su Eurosport e Eurosport2 trasmettono partite di college

EDIT: Ovviamente ormai dovrai aspettare l'inizio della stagione a settembre

[titan2010]

chiedo direttamente qui anche se ho aperto un 3d apposito.

che offerda dà sky per quanto riguarda la nfl e il campionato universitario di football?
quante partite e quante con telecronaca italiana?

ovviamente al momento nessuna in quanto la stagione è finita...

la NFL si vede su ESPN america (con telecronaca originale), dove fan vedere un pò di partite ogni week-end (credo 4 ma non lo so x certo) più tutti i playoff, e su raisport con telecronaca in italiano (ma fidati che è molto meglio espn con quella originale ) fan vedere un paio di partite ogni weekend e quasi tutte quelle dei playoff

il college c'è sempre su ESPN (sempre telecronaca originale) dove fan vedere 2-3 partite a weekend più tutti i bowl importanti, su eurosprt, dove fan vedere solo la big ten (con commento in italiano), e su sky sport 2 dove però fanno solo una partita a weekend (con commento in italiano ma stavolta gradevole )

o almeno, questo era quello che facevano quest'anno, non so se il prossimo sarà ancora così...di sicuro su ESPN america si vedrà ancora quasi tutto

[titan2010]

Più che altro, i filosofi (letteralmente) del football del 3d, potete darmi qualche link a dei mock draft?

beh qui l'unico filosofo è istrice cmq io non ne ho idea, i mock draft li guardo solo se ci capito sopra x caso...soprattutto in questo periodo poi, non equivalgono a spazzatura ma poco ci manca

[The Kurgan]

beh qui l'unico filosofo è istrice cmq io non ne ho idea, i mock draft li guardo solo se ci capito sopra x caso...soprattutto in questo periodo poi, non equivalgono a spazzatura ma poco ci manca

Ho detto letteralmente, cioè amanti del sapere

[titan2010]

Quello di bucky brooks immagino uno ne avevo visto anche io a suo tempo, una cosa obbrobriosamente spaventosa

dai che ci riprova divertiti

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09...s&confirm=true

[dralbert]

Presi dal mio insider ESPN:

McShay 2.0

St. Louis Rams

Record: 1-15


Gerald McCoy*, DT, Oklahoma
The Rams have a poor track record when it comes to drafting defensive linemen early, and now they have a tough choice to make between the stronger, more instinctive Ndamukong Suh and the quicker, more disruptive McCoy. Coach Steve Spagnuolo is looking for defensive linemen who can penetrate, which is why we think McCoy could be the top overall pick.

Detroit Lions

Record: 2-14


Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

The Lions will gladly take Suh here. He won't provide the pass-rush production of McCoy, but he is a force versus the run and he consistently disrupts passing windows thanks to his excellent instincts and long arms.


Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Record: 3-13


Jason Pierre-Paul*, DE, South Florida

The Bucs will consider Tennessee S Eric Berry here, but they are in dire need of a speed rusher and Pierre-Paul is the most explosive one this draft class has to offer.


Washington Redskins

Record: 4-12


Anthony Davis*, OT, Rutgers

Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford has enough physical and mental tools to develop into a good NFL starter eventually. However, he also enters the league with enough question marks (shoulder injury, spread offensive system, etc.) for a team like the Redskins to pass and fill one of several other holes. Solidifying its offensive line should be Washington's top priority, and Davis is the most naturally gifted tackle in this year's deep group. Two other options at tackle are Russell Okung (Oklahoma State) and Bryan Bulaga (Iowa).


Kansas City Chiefs

Record: 4-12


Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State

Berry could make a huge impact in the Chiefs' secondary as well, but Kansas City has too much work still to do at core positions to spend No. 5 money on a safety. The offensive line needs to be solidified, and that could happen by bringing in Okung, who has a quick first step, good power and a mean streak.


Seattle Seahawks

Record: 5-11


Bryan Bulaga*, OT, Iowa

Look for Seattle to pass on a quarterback in the top 10 for the second straight year. Finding a replacement for Walter Jones at left tackle is the more immediate need, and the team will get a safer prospect there than at quarterback. Bulaga still has room to improve in pass protection, but he displays the feet and balance to develop into a very good overall starting left tackle in the NFL.


Cleveland Browns

Record: 5-11


Eric Berry*, S, Tennessee

Oklahoma State WR Dez Bryant will be tough to pass up here, but the Browns did spend a pair of second-round picks on WRs Brian Robiskie and Mohamed Massaquoi last year. Berry has the talent and experience to make the kind of impact for the Browns that perennial Pro Bowler Ed Reed made for the Ravens early in his career.


Oakland Raiders

Record: 5-11


Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

Considering the team has used high draft picks on a quarterback (JaMarcus Russell), running back (Darren McFadden) and wide receiver (Darrius Heyward-Bey) in recent years, it would make sense to shift the focus to the offensive line this April. Both of the Raiders' starting offensive tackles (Mario Henderson and Cornell Green) are below average, and Williams has the physical tools and toughness to provide an upgrade at one of those two spots immediately.


Buffalo Bills

Record: 6-11


Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma

Offensive tackle and quarterback are chief among the Bills' needs, and they should draft a tackle if Davis, Okung or Bulaga is available. This scenario has them selecting the top quarterback prospect in the 2010 class, though. Bradford is a bit of a project because of his slight frame and the spread system he played in at Oklahoma, but he has the football intelligence and accuracy to be molded into a good starter in the NFL.


Jacksonville Jaguars**

Record: 7-9


Derrick Morgan*, DE, Georgia Tech

Morgan will not wow scouts with his results at the combine, but he is a high-motor, technically sound player who can pressure the quarterback and set the edge against the run. He has the physical tools to develop into a good every-down starter at the next level.


Denver Broncos** (from 7-9 Chicago)

Record: 6-7


Dez Bryant*, WR, Oklahoma State

Denver still has needs along its offensive and defensive fronts as well as in the secondary, but it will be tough to pass on the clear-cut No. 1 wideout in this year's class should Bryant fall to the Broncos.


Miami Dolphins

Record: 7-9


Rolando McClain*, ILB, Alabama

Bryant falling to No. 12 would be a dream scenario for the Dolphins, but if he is off the board, look for Miami to target a top talent in the defensive front seven. McClain is NFL-ready with the size, straight-line speed and work ethic to win a starting inside linebacker job immediately.


San Francisco 49ers

Record: 8-8


Joe Haden*, CB, Florida

The 49ers could go in several directions with this pick, including quarterback, offensive line or a pass-rusher, but they wouldn't go wrong taking a top-10 skill player like Haden at this spot.


Seattle Seahawks (from 8-8 Denver)

Record: 5-11


C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson

Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen might be a possibility here, but we do not believe he's worthy of a first-round selection. After finding a left tackle at No. 6, it would make sense for the Seahawks to use this pick on a difference-maker like Spiller. Running backs generally are not worth drafting this high, but Spiller has additional value due to his home run ability as a receiver and return man.


New York Giants

Record: 8-8


Brian Price*, DT, UCLA

The Giants need to retool the middle of their defense, and Price would be a good player to start with. He possesses the quickness and power to develop into a disruptive playmaker who can get into opposing backfields.


San Francisco** (from 8-8 Carolina)

Record: 8-8


Mike Iupati, OT/G, Idaho

Iupati is a fast-rising guard/right tackle prospect who is strong and nasty and would fit in nicely with coach Mike Singletary's hard-nosed brand of football.


Tennessee Titans**

Record: 8-8


Carlos Dunlap*, DE, Florida

Dunlap is a bit immature and there are questions about his work ethic, but he also possesses a rare combination of size and athleticism for a defensive end. The Titans have enough veteran leadership on that side of the ball to pull the trigger here on a developmental project like Dunlap.


Pittsburgh Steelers

Record: 9-7


Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee

The Steelers would like to use this pick on a top offensive line prospect like Iupati or Trent Williams, but with both off the board, they will avoid reaching for another offensive lineman. They also will avoid stretching for a tackle like Maryland's Bruce Campbell to go for value with Dan Williams, who has the size and strength to develop into the eventual replacement for NT Casey Hampton, who is set to become a free agent.


Atlanta Falcons**

Record: 9-7


Kareem Jackson*, CB, Alabama

The Falcons need to improve their secondary talent after getting shredded through the air this past season. Jackson is one of the most underrated prospects in the 2010 class, and has the size, agility and balance to hold up in bump-and-run coverage on the perimeter. Plus, Jackson's instincts and technique are outstanding, so he should be ready to play as a rookie despite leaving school a year early.


Houston Texans**

Record: 9-7


Earl Thomas*, S, Texas

Thomas is undersized but physical enough to play safety in the NFL if used properly. Regardless, he's one of the three most talented defensive backs in the 2010 class, and the Texans could use an upgrade at both free safety and cornerback, so Thomas is a fit no matter where he ends up playing.


Cincinnati Bengals

Record:10-6


Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma

The Bengals are likely to use an early-round selection on a tight end, and while Gresham is a risk due to knee injuries (torn left ACL in high school, season-ending cartilage damage to right knee in 2009), his combination of size and athleticism is rare and he can stretch the seam effectively.


New England Patriots

Record: 10-6


Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan

Graham is a bit undersized to play a traditional defensive end role, and he does not have the ideal athleticism you want in an outside linebacker. If used properly, though, Graham can excel in the NFL, and he appears to be in Bill Belichick's wheelhouse with his nonstop motor, excellent technique and good overall football intelligence.


Green Bay Packers

Record: 11-5


Bruce Campbell*, OT, Maryland

Campbell will turn some heads with his performance at the combine. However, while he might have the best combination of physical tools in this year's offensive tackle class, we expect Campbell to slip to the bottom half of the first round due to injury concerns and below-average technique.


Philadelphia Eagles

Record: 11-5


Taylor Mays, S, USC

The Eagles need a replacement for the physical presence former defensive leader Brian Dawkins took with him when he left for Denver. Mays is a bit of a liability in deep coverage and he needs to learn to wrap up more consistently as a tackler, but it is hard to imagine a player with his combination of size, straight-line speed and explosive hitting falling out of the first round.


Baltimore Ravens

Record: 9-7


Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State

Wilson is a fast-rising prospect after showcasing his upper-echelon bump-and-run coverage skills at the Senior Bowl. A cornerback-needy team like the Ravens could easily pull the trigger on Wilson late in the first round.


Arizona Cardinals

Record: 10-6


Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas

Kindle is a bit overrated, but we do think he is worth a pick at this point in the first round. The Cardinals could put him to work as a situational edge rusher early in his career while he works on getting bigger and stronger in order to hold up better versus the run.


Dallas Cowboys

Record: 11-5


Nate Allen, S, South Florida

Allen is far from a first-round lock, but the Cowboys need to improve their athleticism at safety, and Allen has the right combination of speed and fluidity in coverage to help fix the problem.


San Diego Chargers

Record: 13-3


Jahvid Best*, RB, California

Best's draft stock could take a big hit depending on how the medical reports (back/neck, concussion) from the combine look. Assuming he checks out, Best likely will be high on the Chargers' board, along with Dan Williams, fellow RBs Ryan Mathews (Fresno State) and Jonathan Dwyer (Georgia Tech), and DT/DE Jared Odrick (Penn State). A healthy Best gets the nod thanks to his game-breaking speed.


New York Jets

Record: 9-7


Arrelious Benn*, WR, Illinois

The Jets need perimeter weapons for QB Mark Sanchez to throw to, and Benn is a better prospect than his 2009 production might indicate. He played through a nagging ankle injury and his quarterback was inconsistent, but Benn shows good initial burst and the ability to generate yards after the catch. Still, he needs to be more consistent catching the ball away from his body and must become a more savvy route runner.


Minnesota Vikings

Record: 12-4


Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State

The Vikings have proved they will take the best player available on the board, and in this scenario, Odrick fits the bill and would be groomed as an eventual replacement for aging DT Pat Williams. Other possibilities include Clausen, ILB Brandon Spikes (Florida), TE Anthony McCoy (USC) and C/G Maurkice Pouncey (Florida).


Indianapolis Colts

Record: 14-2


Maurkice Pouncey*, OL, Florida

Odrick would make sense if he was still on the board, or the Colts could reach for an athletic offensive tackle like USC's Charles Brown. But Pouncey is a gifted interior lineman with the quick feet, versatility and football intelligence to help the Colts solidify their interior offensive line.


New Orleans Saints

Record: 13-3


Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri

Weatherspoon is expected to turn some heads at the combine with his speed, and we're hearing that some teams grade him out as a mid-first-round pick. We're not quite as high on Weatherspoon because we question his ability to play in space, but the Super Bowl champs are expected to focus on upgrading the speed and athleticism of their defense, and Weatherspoon fits the mold.

[dralbert]

Mel Kiper 2.0

St. Louis Rams

Record: 1-15


Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

Clearly, the Rams need to figure out who will take the snaps, and it'll be interesting to see whether they are overwhelmed by one of the QB options. But unless St. Louis trades down -- which is always difficult given the economics of the draft -- Suh is a safe pick. As I've said before, on film he's maybe the most dominating defensive tackle I've seen. He can help immediately. Oddly, for a player so highly thought of, Suh may be even more versatile than some think.



Detroit Lions

Record: 2-14


Gerald McCoy*, DT, Oklahoma


McCoy or Suh will be a welcome sight for the Lions with the second pick, and McCoy is an extraordinarily good consolation prize for any team unable to get Suh. He's simply not that far behind the former Cornhusker in the eyes of personnel people. McCoy is highly disruptive and an ideal player to use as an attacking defensive tackle in a 4-3 scheme.




Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Record: 3-13


Eric Berry*, S, Tennessee


People will continue to debate the merits of taking a safety so high, but Berry is an exception to any rule. He could be the next to join the class of true difference-makers at the safety position with the likes of Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed (the most frequent comparison) and Bob Sanders. Berry is outstanding in coverage and far more physical than his size would indicate.




Washington Redskins

Record: 4-12


Jimmy Clausen*, QB, Notre Dame


Clausen will gain momentum after the combine. Once he's fully recovered from his toe surgery, he'll show teams he can make the throws, but there's more to it. His intelligence, competitiveness and toughness will impress personnel people, and his stock will rise. Clausen has under-center experience and was as close to mistake-free as he could be given his surroundings this past season.




Kansas City Chiefs

Record: 4-12


Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers


Davis has the physical talent to be a Pro Bowl player early in his career, but he's still developing. Still, given a choice, the Chiefs can't pass on his upside, which is as high as any player's in the draft. A potential Walter Jones-like presence, if his development continues. The Chiefs also could move Branden Albert to the right side.



Seattle Seahawks

Record: 5-11


Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma

The bottom line on Bradford: This quarterback has 10-point accuracy and could very well have gone ahead of Matthew Stafford as the No. 1 pick last year. He will have a chance to prove to many scouts he's still the elite prospect many believe him to be. It's fair to doubt him, but his talent is unquestionable.


Cleveland Browns

Record: 5-11


Joe Haden*, CB, Florida

Haden has the chance to be a top-five player at his position very quickly. He also fits an immediate need for Cleveland and is easily the top cornerback on the board, a player it can plug in from day one. A deft cover corner and great tackler, Haden is the total package.


Oakland Raiders

Record: 5-11


Jason Pierre-Paul*, DE, South Florida

Like Anthony Davis, Pierre-Paul has as much upside as any player in the draft. He's still raw by NFL standards but could contribute quickly just based on incredible athleticism. Once his pass-rushing skills are refined, he's a game-changer.


Buffalo Bills

Record: 6-10


Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State

The Bills should race to the podium as the Redskins did last year when Brian Orakpo landed in their laps. Significant need meets fantastic value here, with Okung being able to step in right away and help a weak offensive line.


Denver Broncos (from Chicago)

Record: 7-9


Dez Bryant*, WR, Oklahoma State

Obviously, a lot depends on whether Brandon Marshall is expected to be back come draft time, but if he isn't, this pick is a winner. You fill the void with the best deep threat in the draft. Bryant has great size and was unstoppable in the Big 12; he's a weapon in the passing game.


Jacksonville Jaguars

Record: 7-9


Derrick Morgan*, DE, Georgia Tech

In the first mock, I had Pierre-Paul in this spot, but his rising stock moves him up the board. Morgan certainly hasn't fallen as a prospect and should be snatched up quickly by the pass-rush-deficient Jags. He's as productive and versatile a player as there is in the draft.


Miami Dolphins

Record:7-9


Rolando McClain*, LB, Alabama

A great get for Miami, a team that needs an inside linebacker and could get the best one in the draft after the top 10. I mentioned before that the Dolphins also could go after Bryant if he were to fall to them here, because they also must address their need at wide receiver. Problem is after Bryant, there's a value gap. If McClain and Bryant are gone here, a trade down the board could be considered.


San Francisco 49ers

Record: 8-8


C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson

In Spiller, the 49ers can add a player who complements Frank Gore in a way I don't think Glen Coffee can. Spiller is a home run threat and should spell Gore and diversify the offense. He also provides an upgrade in the return game.


Seattle Seahawks (from Denver)

Record: 5-11


Everson Griffen*, DE, USC

Seattle could use help on its O-line, but Griffen fills a significant need for pass-rush help here. The Seahawks will take a serious value hit if they select an offensive tackle here with Okung and Davis already off the board. Griffen also has a great size-speed combination, ideal on the edge of a 4-3.


New York Giants

Record: 8-8


Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas

Kindle is a need pick for the Giants, who must get stronger in their linebacking corps and could use a little more help with situational pass-rushing than some think. Kindle will need to overcome size issues -- another way of saying he simply could add some bulk to a long (6-4) frame -- but he's proven far sturdier against the run than many who also can rush the passer.


San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina)

Record: 8-8


Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

Considering how good Williams is, even at a position that normally doesn't draw high-to-mid first-round picks, getting him here would be of solid value. Williams could step in immediately at right tackle, and the 49ers would upgrade up front.


Tennessee Titans

Record: 8-8


Carlos Dunlap*, DE, Florida

At a certain point, even questions surrounding a player's makeup can't overcome the talent, and getting a player like Dunlap at this stage is hard to question. With exceptional size and top-end athleticism for a defensive end, Dunlap should help disrupt opposing passers early in his career.


Pittsburgh Steelers

Record: 9-7


Mike Iupati, G, Idaho

Iupati was one of the breakout stars at the Senior Bowl. He fits what Pittsburgh likes as an athletic but powerful guard who should help return the Steelers' running game to the upper half of the league. Steve Hutchinson comparisons are legitimate. (Hutchinson went No. 17 overall in the 2001 draft.)


Atlanta Falcons

Record: 9-7


Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State

Wilson is another player who jumped at the Senior Bowl. He's fluid, excellent in coverage and an immediate help on special teams. Wilson had a quiet season, but great cornerbacks often do. He simply wasn't challenged enough. Stock is now back on the rise.


Houston Texans

Record: 9-7


Brian Price*, DT, UCLA

One of the guys who carries over with the same team from the first mock. Price is hidden away a bit in such a deep class of defensive linemen, but he's a disruptive force who uses great leverage. He should help a defense that's really close to being very good.


Cincinnati Bengals

Record: 10-6


Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech

Here's the big riser of the past couple of weeks. Thomas will be red-hot after the workouts get going. He's a big target (6-3, 225 pounds) and a downfield threat. He averaged more than 25 yards per catch and remained productive in a run-based offense based. Carson Palmer needs weapons, and Thomas can be one.


New England Patriots

Record: 10-6


Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan

If production were all that mattered, Graham would be long gone by now. He led the FBS in tackles for loss and showed why at the Senior Bowl. Always in the backfield, he's an ideal outside linebacker for the Patriots' system, a terror against both the run and the pass.


Green Bay Packers

Record: 11-5


Bryan Bulaga*, OT, Iowa

The more you listen to Green Bay's people, the more you get the sense that keeping Aaron Rodgers upright is a major priority, and it should be, because seeing an MVP-level talent knocked out because of a lack of protection is a sad thought. Bulaga can help immediately, and he has room to grow.


Philadelphia Eagles

Record: 11-5


Taylor Mays, S, USC

The Eagles are looking for that heir to Brian Dawkins, a physical safety who can scare opposing receivers and contribute to the rush defense. Mays has everything you could ask for as a physical package. He had a bad season, and there are legit concerns, but Mays still reeks of top-level NFL athleticism. He just needs to put it together.


Baltimore Ravens

Record: 9-7


Arrelious Benn*, WR, Illinois

Every indication out of Baltimore is that this organization is committed to finding pieces that can help Joe Flacco. If Benn shows scouts he has the necessary speed, everything else is there. He is physical, can run after the catch and can even help in the return game.


Arizona Cardinals

Record: 10-6


Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee

I kept Williams here as a solid remedy to fill the Cardinals' second-biggest need. Just a tremendously strong player, starting with exceptional drive from his lower body, Williams is a disruptive force against the run and is a great help to linebackers.


Dallas Cowboys

Record: 11-5


Bruce Campbell*, OT, Maryland

Cowboys fans with bad memories of getting thrashed up front in the playoffs should be thrilled to get a talent like Campbell right here. Campbell should see his stock rise at the combine, where his athleticism will be on display. If the Cowboys are serious about addressing their biggest need, this is the direction they need to go.


San Diego Chargers

Record: 13-3


Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama

As I explained earlier this week, I expect to see Cody's stock rise because he may be the purest example in this draft of a guy who, limitations aside, specifically fits a scheme. Cody is the prototype block-occupying clogger in a 3-4 scheme. You can question his weight or his versatility, but he can make other players better. Remember, Jamal Williams' injury is a factor here.


New York Jets

Record: 9-7


Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers

The Jets could use some receiving help for Mark Sanchez here as well, but McCourty is a guy whose stock could skyrocket if he runs the way many think he will. The Jets can get exposed when passers throw away from Darrelle Revis, and McCourty could be the answer on the other side.


Minnesota Vikings

Record: 12-4


Maurkice Pouncey, G/C, Florida

The Vikings could use help on the interior of their offensive line, and Pouncey has a first-round grade as a guard, which makes him an outstanding player. The Vikes did well when they looked to Gainesville in the first round last year.


Indianapolis Colts

Record: 14-2


Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State

One of the areas in which Indy could use help is along the interior of its defensive line, and Odrick can help the linebackers run free and be disruptive in his own right. Like Williams at No. 26, a great talent buried a little bit in a deep class of defensive linemen.


New Orleans Saints

Record: 14-2


Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri

Weatherspoon fits like a glove for the Saints as an outside linebacker in 4-3 system. He has ideal size for the position and is a tackling machine. Weatherspoon has the speed and experience to play inside or out, so adding versatility is also a good value proposition.

[The Kurgan]

Tu che li hai seguiti più di noialtri immagino (me di sicuro almeno) che ci dici di suh e mccoy? chi è meglio tra i due?

[dralbert]

Tu che li hai seguiti più di noialtri immagino (me di sicuro almeno) che ci dici di suh e mccoy? chi è meglio tra i due?

come dice McShay sono entrambi molto simili come giocatori,a livello di talento puro Suh è pazzesco,nella finale Big12 contro Texas ha fatto una partita che semplicemente non avevo mai visto fare a nessuno a livello di college,sembrava un adulto che giocava con dei bambini...

McCoy è un DT più completo,è più giocatore,più versatile,ma se esplodessero entrambi al 100% ecco Suh è quello che avrebbe quel qualcosa in più,quel pizzico di "intangible" che nessuna combine potrà mai misurare...

[titan2010]

e chi/cosa sarebbe il tuo insider ESPN?

[The Kurgan]

ESPN insider è una roba a pagamento della espn che ti dà accesso a più articoli con rumors, e varie robe più dettagliate (sempre che io e lui si stia parlando della stessa cosa)

[Big_blind93]

A me fa una rabbia vedere sti mock draft perchè per prendere quel pacco di Cutler abbiamo sputtanato la nostra prima scelta, che è la decima in assoluto, una tra le prime cazzo!!