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  1. #16
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    beh ... forse qualche buon samaritano che bazzica su quel forum lo tradurrà in italiano
    cioè?

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    In italiano?

    O speranze di pubblicazione dalla FX dopo un anno, a prezzo ridotto in italiano,ecc...... no?
    Nessuna traduzione prevista...
    Se poi qualcuno la vuol fare amatoriale deve solo accomodarsi...

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    c'è un detto che riassume quello che dici, ma non mi viene in mente
    Predica bene e razzola male?

    speriamo anche che non lo facciano pagare molto (o sarà free? )
    Sempre dalle FAQ:

    How much will Age of Decadence cost?

    "$25 direct download, $50 for a box... plus shipping."

    ....forse un pò caro per un indiegame, ma speriamo ne valga la pena...



    Altre info: (faccio prima se incollo tutte le FAQ fra poco )

    What methods of payment will you accept? Paypal? Electron Visa? Cheques? Cash on Delivery? Sexual favours?

    "Too early to say, but I can assure you that we'll find a way to get the game to everyone who's interested. We can't afford to say "sorry, but we only do things a certain way."

    What comes with the boxed version?

    "Boxed version will include a full color, professionally produced box (as good or better than what you see in stores), full color glossy manual, full color glossy map. And the aforementioned CD case, of course."

    Will you ship the boxed version to any country that has a postal service?

    "Yes, we will. It's a personal guarantee."

    If I buy the boxed version, would I be able to download the game so I don't have to wait playing?

    "Yes."

    When can I pre-order Age of Decadence?

    "When we get closer to the release."

    Will there be a public beta?

    "We'll start with an internal test, and depending on the results, we may or may not do a public beta."

    Citazione alaris Visualizza Messaggio
    cioè?
    Una volpe che si aggira raminga tra i meandri di questo forum...

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    beh ... forse qualche buon samaritano che bazzica su quel forum lo tradurrà in italiano



    c'è un detto che riassume quello che dici, ma non mi viene in mente

    diciamo che è possibile che accada, per il bene dei vari giocatori (me incluso) spero di no

    speriamo anche che non lo facciano pagare molto (o sarà free? )
    Free ormai non è neanche l' aria
    Comunque forse vuoi dire il proverbio del gobbo ? Neanch'io lo ricordo bene.
    Gli italiani e le elezioni politiche:
    -siete come quelle ragazze che vogliono farsi mettere incinta da uno ricco per starsene a casa a non fare un cazzo, siete al settimo figlio a carico vostro ma non abbandonate la convinzione che questo piano possa funzionare.

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    guardate non mi viene proprio il proverbio, so che c'è ma non mi viene

    cmq immaginavo fosse a pagamento, ma la speranza è l'ultima a morire

    per la storia della traduzione ... visto che il forum dove scribacchiano questi qui che stanno facendo il gioco è frequentato da qualche italiano (o ci va solo skree? ) magari qualche utente che lo frequenta prova a fare una traduzione amatoriale ... ma era solo una speranza (forse vana)

    io non so neppure quale sia il forum in questione
    (insomma non mi riferivo a utenti di questo forum, quali ragfox ad esempio)

  5. #20
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    [QUOTE=Una volpe che si aggira raminga tra i meandri di questo forum...[/QUOTE]
    capito grazie!

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    Interessante descrizione del sistema di combattimento e suoi derivati:

    Spoiler:
    THE AGE OF DECADENCE COMBAT BETA

    1. CHARACTERS

    Primary stats:

    There are six primary statistics defining a character's innate physical and mental abilities. Between them they determine the starting values of skills, bonus Skill Points awarded, derived stats (HP & AP), as well as modifiers for range, reaction, and accuracy. They are also regularly checked in dialogue and interactive text segments of the game to allow access to ability specific game play options. In this combat beta, both INT and CHA are fixed at 4, since the focus of this combat beta is to demonstrate and test the combat and combat related abilities from the game.

    Strength (STR) - determines a character’s damage modifiers and maximum carry weight.
    Dexterity (DEX) - determines a character’s Action Points and combat sequence.
    Constitution (CON) - determines a character’s Hit Points and poison resistance.
    Perception (PER) - determines a character’s range and accuracy modifiers
    Intelligence (INT) - determines a character’s bonus Skill Points, received per 10 SP earned.
    Charisma (CHA) - determines a character’s reaction modifiers.

    Derived stats:

    Hit Points (HP) - determines how much damage a character can soak up before dying.
    Action Points (AP) - determine how many actions a character can make during a combat turn.

    (HP = CON x 5 + 5, and AP = DEX + 2)

    Press C at any point to view the character screen and distribute skill points.


    2. COMBAT

    The Age of Decadence combat system is turn-based (sequential combat), and uses action points to determine how many actions can be performed during each turn. You can initiate combat either by clicking the crossed swords icon on the interface, or by pressing Enter. Clicking on the crossed swords icon again, or pressing Enter, will end your turn. Additionally, in certain circumstances the option to initiate combat will be available via dialogues. When combat is initiated, a Dexterity comparison is performed to determine who acts first (i.e. who gets the first turn).

    Your character’s Dexterity determines how many action points are available during each turn. Each action performed - swinging a sword, accessing your inventory, throwing a net, moving away, etc - has an associated AP cost. For example, using a dagger (a fast weapon) to perform a normal attack takes 3AP, however using a two handed hammer (a slow weapon) takes 6AP to swing it around and bring it down on someone's head for a normal attack.

    There are two weapon slots, so either two one-handed weapons or a single two-handed weapon can be equipped at a time. The weapon’s damage, range, and AP cost (modified by your stats, attack type, and ammo type) will be displayed in the weapon slot. Right-click on the weapon slot to open up a menu with all available attack options.

    3. ATTACK TYPES

    All weapons (except for crossbows) have fast, normal, and power attack options.

    Normal attacks (N key) - standard attacks that have no modifiers.
    Fast attacks (F key) - causes less damage, costs one AP less, but are more difficult to avoid. Generally most effective against fast, lightly armored opponents.
    Power attacks (P key) - causes a lot more damage, costs an extra AP, but are easier to avoid. Generally most effective against slow, heavy armored opponents.

    Aimed attacks - aimed attacks all cost two extra AP’s and have different to-hit penalties:

    Torso – normal damage range, no penalty, chance to find a weak spot in the armor. (DR halved)
    Arms – fast damage range, -10% to hit, disarms on a successful hit.
    Legs – fast damage range, -20% to hit, cripples (movement cost doubled) on a successful hit
    Head – power damage range, -30% to hit, but a chance of knocking the opponent out.

    Special attacks: whirlwind (melee weapons), impale (spears only), flurry (daggers only), multishot (bows only), burst (repeater crossbow only). Due to time constraints, not all special attacks are available in this beta.

    With crossbows, their versatility comes from the different designs available: one-handed, double-shot, scoped, repeating with a magazine, etc. Unlike bows, crossbows have to be manually reloaded. You can right-click on a weapon to see the options available.

    Certain weapons are more suited for either fast or power attacks and thus provide an increased damage range when used with these attacks. For example, a simple dagger does 1-6 damage for a normal strike, 1-3 damage for a fast strike, and 2-8 damage for a power attack. A curved dagger is better suited for fast, slashing attacks and less suited for powerful thrusts, so its damage ranges are 1-6 normal, 1-4 fast, and 2-7 for power attacks. However, a wide-bladed dagger is the opposite, so its damage ranges are 1-6 normal, 1-2 fast, and 2-9 for power attacks.


    4. WEAPONS

    All weapons have 3 important statistics: damage range, attack speed in action points, and reach. Additionally, crossbows have fire/reload speed and, in some cases, multi shot capacity. Some weapons have special abilities like ignoring shields or cutting into the enemy's armor more effectively.

    The game offers eight different types of weapon. Each type has its own passive trait that increases along with your skill with the weapon. The higher the skill, the higher the chance to score the special effect associated with your weapon.

    Daggers - bypass armor.
    Swords - increased chance of a Critical Strike.
    Axes - split shields.
    Hammers - knock your opponent to the ground.
    Spears - interrupt attempts to close in.
    Bows - increased chance of Critical Strike.
    Crossbows - knock your opponent down.
    Throwing - bypass armor.


    5. ARMOR

    Armor doesn't increase your chance to avoid attacks. In fact, it reduces your mobility and makes it harder to dodge incoming attacks. However, armor absorbs some of the damage from attacks when you fail to dodge or block an attack successfully. Basically, using armor trades Dodge and Action Points for Damage Resistance.

    Sets of armor have different statistics, so you must consider carefully what your fighting style is, and choose your equipment accordingly. Going for the heaviest armor and the biggest weapon may not be the best choice in Age of Decadence.

    Armor stats:

    Dodge penalty, Sneak penalty - self explanatory.

    Damage resistance (DR) - how many points of damage from each attack this armor absorbs. For example, if DR is 6, then the first 6 points of damage per attack will be absorbed by the armor without any harm to your character.

    Max Action Points (MaxAP) - the maximum amount of action points per turn. If Max AP is 8, then even if you have 12AP, while you're wearing this armor your Max AP is 8.

    Versus critical (vsCritical) - protection against Critical Strikes (attacks that target weak armor spots and vital organs).

    Crafting can be used to increase the armor’s DR, Max AP, vsCritical, or lower its penalties.


    5. HELMETS

    Helmets protect the head of the wearer, however they do not add to the overall defence rating. Not all opponents will aim attacks at the head, but leaving it unprotected will definitely be considered an open invitation by many.

    Helmet stats:

    Damage resistance (DR) - usually less than most armor’s DR, so even if you fail to score a critical hit, you'll cause more damage if you can actually hit someone's head.

    Versus critical (vsCritical) - the heavier the helmet, the better it protects you against critical strikes, but the more it limits your field of vision.

    To-hit penalty - a helmet's design may limit your vision, thus reducing your to-hit chance.

    Crafting can be used to increase a helmet’s DR, vsCritical or decrease the to-hit penalty.


    6. SHIELDS

    All shields, except for bucklers, have a Block bonus which is offset by a to-hit penalty. Any novice can hide behind a tower shield, but the shield strapped to their arm will slow them down and they won't be able to attack as effectively as they would have without the shield.

    Shield stats:

    Block bonus, Dodge penalty, To-Hit penalty, Sneak penalty, Versus critical (vsCritical)

    Versus Ranged (vsRanged) - shields provide superior protection against all ranged attacks, but certain weapons, like pilums and dagger-like armor-piercing bolts (30% chance) can go through shields, completely ignoring them. All shields are wooden and can be split in half by axes. Once split, a shield is discarded and can't be repaired.

    Crafting cannot be used on shields.


    7. AMMUNITION

    For the sake of convenience, all arrows and bolts have been combined into universal ammo. Originally, the game had arrows and bolts, but 3 different types times 5 different metals times various crafting upgrades times 2 (arrows/bolts) was too much to manage and one universal ammo was forged by the Elven council. True story.

    Ammo types:

    Regular - standard ammunition.

    Armor piercing - causes less damage, but penetrates through armor better. DR is divided by 3 to determine the effective value, i.e. a DR9 armor will absorb 9 points of damage if shot at by regular ammo and only 3 points (9/3) if hit by armor-piercing ammo.

    Jagged - causes more damage, but is easily stopped by armor. DR is multiplied by 3 to determine the effective value, i.e. a DR1 armor will absorb 3 points of damage, but a DR4 armor will absorb 12 points of damage.


    8. METAL TYPES & CRAFTING

    The Crafting system is disabled in the combat beta. You either loot people or buy items from a local trader. The trader’s inventory is updated twice – upon earning the Gladiator and Executioner ranks.

    Overall, there are 5 metal types in the game: Bronze, Iron, Steel, Blue Steel, Meteor. The difference between metal types is hardiness (read it as higher damage and damage resistance), weight, and price.


    * * *
    Molto simile ai Fallout...

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    ma gira su un pc i merdA?

    SINE, COSINE, TANGENT!

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    ... considerando quale è il background di Vince e compagnia (ovvero un sito psicopatico.......
    speriamo che il vecchio erasmo avesse ragione
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    capito grazie!
    parrebbe impigrito ha (addirittura) abbandonato "lazarus"
    inviato da banale pc fisso con normale tastiera

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    parrebbe impigrito ha (addirittura) abbandonato "lazarus"
    È che sono diventato ricco traducendo Fallout, per cui ora trascorro le mie giornate oziando sulla mia spiaggia privata mentre sorseggio una bella orzata ghiacciata.
    Progetto T.I.F.O.N.E. - Traduzione Italiana Fallout Nessuno Escluso (?)
    Fallout 1 + Fallout 2 + Fallout Tactics
    E Ultima VII part 1 e part 2... e anche Zork I!

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    si sanno gia i requisiti?


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    si sanno gia i requisiti?


    SINE, COSINE, TANGENT!

    Si, di merda :P insomma, gira pure su un EEEPC ho idea.

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    Si, di merda :P insomma, gira pure su un EEEPC ho idea.
    cavolo fra arkham asylum, DAO e questo dovrò fare un mutuo



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    Ultima modifica di xdavidx; 9-09-2009 alle 21:22:42

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    Una cosa che devo dire, frequentando la loro community, è che Vince è disponibile, e mi ha fatto una buona impressione come persona. Intelligente, soprattutto, questo mi fa sperare bene, anche se da quanto ho capito hanno qualche problema di lingua, ma sticazzi alla fine, non mi scandalizzo per un verbo usato male :P

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    È che sono diventato ricco traducendo Fallout, per cui ora trascorro le mie giornate oziando sulla mia spiaggia privata mentre sorseggio una bella orzata ghiacciata.
    bene bene.
    colpito (anche se non affondato )
    ( magari...le sere d'inverno sono lunghe, l'orzata aumenta troppo gli zuccheri, dopo un pò di tempo la gloria comincia ad appannarsi...)
    inviato da banale pc fisso con normale tastiera

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    Interessante descrizione del sistema di combattimento e suoi derivati:

    Spoiler:
    THE AGE OF DECADENCE COMBAT BETA

    1. CHARACTERS

    Primary stats:

    There are six primary statistics defining a character's innate physical and mental abilities. Between them they determine the starting values of skills, bonus Skill Points awarded, derived stats (HP & AP), as well as modifiers for range, reaction, and accuracy. They are also regularly checked in dialogue and interactive text segments of the game to allow access to ability specific game play options. In this combat beta, both INT and CHA are fixed at 4, since the focus of this combat beta is to demonstrate and test the combat and combat related abilities from the game.

    Strength (STR) - determines a character’s damage modifiers and maximum carry weight.
    Dexterity (DEX) - determines a character’s Action Points and combat sequence.
    Constitution (CON) - determines a character’s Hit Points and poison resistance.
    Perception (PER) - determines a character’s range and accuracy modifiers
    Intelligence (INT) - determines a character’s bonus Skill Points, received per 10 SP earned.
    Charisma (CHA) - determines a character’s reaction modifiers.

    Derived stats:

    Hit Points (HP) - determines how much damage a character can soak up before dying.
    Action Points (AP) - determine how many actions a character can make during a combat turn.

    (HP = CON x 5 + 5, and AP = DEX + 2)

    Press C at any point to view the character screen and distribute skill points.


    2. COMBAT

    The Age of Decadence combat system is turn-based (sequential combat), and uses action points to determine how many actions can be performed during each turn. You can initiate combat either by clicking the crossed swords icon on the interface, or by pressing Enter. Clicking on the crossed swords icon again, or pressing Enter, will end your turn. Additionally, in certain circumstances the option to initiate combat will be available via dialogues. When combat is initiated, a Dexterity comparison is performed to determine who acts first (i.e. who gets the first turn).

    Your character’s Dexterity determines how many action points are available during each turn. Each action performed - swinging a sword, accessing your inventory, throwing a net, moving away, etc - has an associated AP cost. For example, using a dagger (a fast weapon) to perform a normal attack takes 3AP, however using a two handed hammer (a slow weapon) takes 6AP to swing it around and bring it down on someone's head for a normal attack.

    There are two weapon slots, so either two one-handed weapons or a single two-handed weapon can be equipped at a time. The weapon’s damage, range, and AP cost (modified by your stats, attack type, and ammo type) will be displayed in the weapon slot. Right-click on the weapon slot to open up a menu with all available attack options.

    3. ATTACK TYPES

    All weapons (except for crossbows) have fast, normal, and power attack options.

    Normal attacks (N key) - standard attacks that have no modifiers.
    Fast attacks (F key) - causes less damage, costs one AP less, but are more difficult to avoid. Generally most effective against fast, lightly armored opponents.
    Power attacks (P key) - causes a lot more damage, costs an extra AP, but are easier to avoid. Generally most effective against slow, heavy armored opponents.

    Aimed attacks - aimed attacks all cost two extra AP’s and have different to-hit penalties:

    Torso – normal damage range, no penalty, chance to find a weak spot in the armor. (DR halved)
    Arms – fast damage range, -10% to hit, disarms on a successful hit.
    Legs – fast damage range, -20% to hit, cripples (movement cost doubled) on a successful hit
    Head – power damage range, -30% to hit, but a chance of knocking the opponent out.

    Special attacks: whirlwind (melee weapons), impale (spears only), flurry (daggers only), multishot (bows only), burst (repeater crossbow only). Due to time constraints, not all special attacks are available in this beta.

    With crossbows, their versatility comes from the different designs available: one-handed, double-shot, scoped, repeating with a magazine, etc. Unlike bows, crossbows have to be manually reloaded. You can right-click on a weapon to see the options available.

    Certain weapons are more suited for either fast or power attacks and thus provide an increased damage range when used with these attacks. For example, a simple dagger does 1-6 damage for a normal strike, 1-3 damage for a fast strike, and 2-8 damage for a power attack. A curved dagger is better suited for fast, slashing attacks and less suited for powerful thrusts, so its damage ranges are 1-6 normal, 1-4 fast, and 2-7 for power attacks. However, a wide-bladed dagger is the opposite, so its damage ranges are 1-6 normal, 1-2 fast, and 2-9 for power attacks.


    4. WEAPONS

    All weapons have 3 important statistics: damage range, attack speed in action points, and reach. Additionally, crossbows have fire/reload speed and, in some cases, multi shot capacity. Some weapons have special abilities like ignoring shields or cutting into the enemy's armor more effectively.

    The game offers eight different types of weapon. Each type has its own passive trait that increases along with your skill with the weapon. The higher the skill, the higher the chance to score the special effect associated with your weapon.

    Daggers - bypass armor.
    Swords - increased chance of a Critical Strike.
    Axes - split shields.
    Hammers - knock your opponent to the ground.
    Spears - interrupt attempts to close in.
    Bows - increased chance of Critical Strike.
    Crossbows - knock your opponent down.
    Throwing - bypass armor.


    5. ARMOR

    Armor doesn't increase your chance to avoid attacks. In fact, it reduces your mobility and makes it harder to dodge incoming attacks. However, armor absorbs some of the damage from attacks when you fail to dodge or block an attack successfully. Basically, using armor trades Dodge and Action Points for Damage Resistance.

    Sets of armor have different statistics, so you must consider carefully what your fighting style is, and choose your equipment accordingly. Going for the heaviest armor and the biggest weapon may not be the best choice in Age of Decadence.

    Armor stats:

    Dodge penalty, Sneak penalty - self explanatory.

    Damage resistance (DR) - how many points of damage from each attack this armor absorbs. For example, if DR is 6, then the first 6 points of damage per attack will be absorbed by the armor without any harm to your character.

    Max Action Points (MaxAP) - the maximum amount of action points per turn. If Max AP is 8, then even if you have 12AP, while you're wearing this armor your Max AP is 8.

    Versus critical (vsCritical) - protection against Critical Strikes (attacks that target weak armor spots and vital organs).

    Crafting can be used to increase the armor’s DR, Max AP, vsCritical, or lower its penalties.


    5. HELMETS

    Helmets protect the head of the wearer, however they do not add to the overall defence rating. Not all opponents will aim attacks at the head, but leaving it unprotected will definitely be considered an open invitation by many.

    Helmet stats:

    Damage resistance (DR) - usually less than most armor’s DR, so even if you fail to score a critical hit, you'll cause more damage if you can actually hit someone's head.

    Versus critical (vsCritical) - the heavier the helmet, the better it protects you against critical strikes, but the more it limits your field of vision.

    To-hit penalty - a helmet's design may limit your vision, thus reducing your to-hit chance.

    Crafting can be used to increase a helmet’s DR, vsCritical or decrease the to-hit penalty.


    6. SHIELDS

    All shields, except for bucklers, have a Block bonus which is offset by a to-hit penalty. Any novice can hide behind a tower shield, but the shield strapped to their arm will slow them down and they won't be able to attack as effectively as they would have without the shield.

    Shield stats:

    Block bonus, Dodge penalty, To-Hit penalty, Sneak penalty, Versus critical (vsCritical)

    Versus Ranged (vsRanged) - shields provide superior protection against all ranged attacks, but certain weapons, like pilums and dagger-like armor-piercing bolts (30% chance) can go through shields, completely ignoring them. All shields are wooden and can be split in half by axes. Once split, a shield is discarded and can't be repaired.

    Crafting cannot be used on shields.


    7. AMMUNITION

    For the sake of convenience, all arrows and bolts have been combined into universal ammo. Originally, the game had arrows and bolts, but 3 different types times 5 different metals times various crafting upgrades times 2 (arrows/bolts) was too much to manage and one universal ammo was forged by the Elven council. True story.

    Ammo types:

    Regular - standard ammunition.

    Armor piercing - causes less damage, but penetrates through armor better. DR is divided by 3 to determine the effective value, i.e. a DR9 armor will absorb 9 points of damage if shot at by regular ammo and only 3 points (9/3) if hit by armor-piercing ammo.

    Jagged - causes more damage, but is easily stopped by armor. DR is multiplied by 3 to determine the effective value, i.e. a DR1 armor will absorb 3 points of damage, but a DR4 armor will absorb 12 points of damage.


    8. METAL TYPES & CRAFTING

    The Crafting system is disabled in the combat beta. You either loot people or buy items from a local trader. The trader’s inventory is updated twice – upon earning the Gladiator and Executioner ranks.

    Overall, there are 5 metal types in the game: Bronze, Iron, Steel, Blue Steel, Meteor. The difference between metal types is hardiness (read it as higher damage and damage resistance), weight, and price.


    * * *
    Molto simile ai Fallout...
    il che è un bene a mio avviso

    mi piaceva molto il combattimento in Fallout 2

    ma la combat-demo è già uscita?

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